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PostedExpatriation if you never lived in the USA
Phil Hodgen
Attorney, Principal
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I received a question from a reader and it is worth a blog post.
I have been reading the expatriation blog. I have a question regarding expatriation of dual nationals never having lived in the US. If they file the 5 years back + current year 2012 IRS and Treasury Dept. forms and then renounce a couple of months after, how soon can they send in the final papers? Is there any advantage to for example file the back years in November, renounce in December and then send the final forms at the beginning of 2014? I suppose this could also be done via the Streamlined program?
Who
This is all about dual-citizens (USA plus some other country) where the individual has never lived in the USA. Indeed, in my experience these people may not even have a Social Security Number.They've never filed U.S. tax returns because--except for an accidental event in their lives that caused them to be U.S. citizens--they have no contact with the United States.What They Want
Sadly, U.S. citizenship is no longer the valuable asset that it once was. Increasingly it is a liability. These dual citizens want to renounce their U.S. citizenship.The Tax Problem
The reason they want to give up U.S. citizenship is (in my observation) driven entirely by U.S. tax considerations. The tax considerations appear to be ranked, from most important to least important:- The estate tax. You have lived your entire life outside the United States. You built up a business from nothing that is now worth $100,000,000. You die and leave the business to your children who are not U.S. citizens. The United States wants to impose its estate tax the value of that business. Your response? "NFW."
- The paperwork/penalty environment. The U.S. tax system has a well-deserved reputation for obscure paperwork requirements and harsh penalties and taxation for people who screw things up. I'm looking at you, Mr. File-Form-5471-one-day-late-and-pay-$10,000. I'm looking at you, too, Mr. Guess-What-You-Own-A-PFIC-Ha-Ha-The-Joke's-On-You. And I'm looking at a busload of your ilk. Peh.
- Income tax. They've made their lives entirely outside the USA and are making income. If they live in a country with an income tax, they're paying tax there. They've never asked the USA for anything, and never will. "Black helicopters will come and save you" is BS and all you have to do is look at the recent fun 'n games in Egypt to see how diligent the U.S. government was there.